From biblical prophecy to modern geopolitics, the controversial vision of a "Greater Israel" has shaped regional tensions for decades. Given Trump’s Gaza comments, what's coming for the Middle East?
“For others, it encompasses a far more expansive vision, stretching from the Nile River in Egypt to the Euphrates River in Iraq—a swath of land that would dwarf the current State of Israel. This ideology has been embraced by Israel’s political right, particularly the Likud Party, which has dominated Israeli politics since 1977.” This is patently false. No political party in Israel advocates this, certainly not Likud. Your article ignores vicious, murderous Islamic jihadism, which endangers people all over the world, not only Israelis. The first Jihadi pogrom against Jews in Palestine/Israel - which included beheadings and rapes - occurred in 1929, long before there were any “illegal” “settlements”. And your article ignores the fact that Israel unilaterally withdrew from Gaza in 2005 in an attempt to arrive at a peaceful resolution. This ultimately resulted in the Islamic, jihadist act of war of Oct 7, 2023. The Palestinian Authority, which pays jihadist terrorists to murder Jews (“pay to slay”) is not much better than Hamas. In brief, your allegation that “By challenging the internationally supported two-state solution and pursuing expansionist policies, Israel risks further destabilizing an already volatile region” is dead wrong. Israel needs to defend itself from the deadly, fanatic ideology of its neighbors. It is their murderous intentions - and not a supposed “expansionist” ideology of Israel - that endangers the peace and stability of the entire world, including but not limited to the Middle East.
Gave up at "Rooted in biblical interpretations and expansionist ideologies, it has fueled regional tensions and sparked debates about Israel’s territorial ambitions." ...... Evidence please, because I know my bible a bit.
The Biblical concept of the "Promised Land" is primarily described in the Hebrew Bible (Old Testament) as the land promised by God to the descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
This land is often associated with the territory of ancient Israel, which includes modern-day Israel, the Palestinian territories, and parts of neighboring countries.
Here's a geographic correlation of how the Biblical "Promised Land" might align with modern geopolitical boundaries:
1. Core Biblical Description
The Promised Land is described in several key passages, including:
Genesis 15:18-21: God promises Abraham a land stretching from the "river of Egypt" (likely the Nile or Wadi el-Arish) to the Euphrates River.
Numbers 34:1-12: Provides a detailed boundary description, including the Mediterranean Sea to the west, the Jordan River and Dead Sea to the east, and specific northern and southern limits.
Deuteronomy 11:24: Describes the land as stretching from the wilderness (Negev) to Lebanon and from the Euphrates to the Mediterranean Sea.
2. Modern Geopolitical Correlations
Southern Boundary: The "river of Egypt" (Wadi el-Arish) aligns with the northeastern Sinai Peninsula, near the modern border between Egypt and Israel.
Western Boundary: The Mediterranean Sea remains a clear western boundary, corresponding to Israel's and Gaza's coastline.
Eastern Boundary: The Jordan River and Dead Sea form the eastern boundary, aligning with the modern borders of Jordan and the West Bank.
Northern Boundary: The northern limits described in the Bible (e.g., Mount Hor, Lebo Hamath) roughly correspond to southern Lebanon and parts of southwestern Syria, including the Golan Heights.
3. Key Regions and Modern Equivalents
Negev Desert: The southern part of modern Israel, extending to the Sinai Peninsula.
Judea and Samaria: The West Bank, including areas like Bethlehem, Hebron, and Nablus.
Galilee: Northern Israel, including the Sea of Galilee.
Coastal Plain: The Mediterranean coastline, including cities like Tel Aviv and Gaza.
Transjordan: Parts of modern Jordan, particularly areas east of the Jordan River, such as Gilead and Ammon.
4. Euphrates River Inclusion
The Biblical promise extending to the Euphrates River (Genesis 15:18) would include parts of modern-day Syria, Iraq, and possibly southeastern Turkey.
This is a more expansive interpretation and is not reflected in modern Israeli borders.
5. Modern Political Realities
The modern State of Israel controls much of the core Biblical Promised Land, including the Negev, Galilee, and coastal plains. However, the West Bank and Gaza Strip are contested territories with competing claims by Israelis and Palestinians.
The northern and eastern boundaries described in the Bible extend beyond modern Israel's internationally recognized borders, encompassing areas in Lebanon, Syria, and Jordan.
6. Geopolitical Implications
The concept of the Promised Land remains deeply significant in Jewish, Christian, and Islamic traditions, influencing religious and political narratives in the region.
Modern geopolitical boundaries are shaped by historical events, such as the British Mandate, the 1948 Arab-Israeli War, and the 1967 Six-Day War, rather than Biblical descriptions.
The Biblical "Promised Land" roughly corresponds to modern Israel, the Palestinian territories, and parts of neighboring countries.
However, the expansive interpretation (e.g., including the Euphrates) goes beyond current geopolitical realities.
As you well know, the region remains a focal point of religious, historical, and political significance.
"descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob." ... and how many "Jews" have been DNA tested to be descendants ?; 3% ??.
As for "Here's a geographic correlation of how the Biblical "Promised Land" might align with modern geopolitical boundaries" - well my view is my view and yours is yours.
As for "Deuteronomy 11:24: Describes the land as stretching from the wilderness (Negev) to Lebanon and from the Euphrates to the Mediterranean Sea."... now where have I heard that recently ... oh from the Palestinian and and wanting peace and to stop the genocide protesters -"From the river to the sea".
I am not arguing, I am learning; so thanks again for your comment, see what you think of the below article...
Sorry if my comment came across as that - I usually speak (write) my thoughts without consideration; let us say. Apologies.
I did read it all by the way - but nobody needs to know.
BUT FOR ME and MY VIEW ONLY; there is a much bigger picture in play now #. Whatever you call it; whether the NWO or 1 Global government - this has been in play for decades, even a couple of centuries... but now we are seeing it. Land grab, wealth transfer, total control over us, theft of natural recourses etc... etc...are happening NOW. For me is is too obvious and whilst my tin hat stays on, I will continue to try and help... unless the obvious knock onthe door of course.
FOR ME - the greater Israel Project is the same as the Holocaust and the so called "anti-semitism" - A COMPLETE LOAD OF BLLX.
PS Why can millions campaign and critisise Israel now ?, when before you could not say a word against them /?
Bob, we basically agree about the big picture here. Obviously, there’s a dark hand organization pulling strings behind the scenes. However, I’m attempting to “chunk” the related issues
“For others, it encompasses a far more expansive vision, stretching from the Nile River in Egypt to the Euphrates River in Iraq—a swath of land that would dwarf the current State of Israel. This ideology has been embraced by Israel’s political right, particularly the Likud Party, which has dominated Israeli politics since 1977.” This is patently false. No political party in Israel advocates this, certainly not Likud. Your article ignores vicious, murderous Islamic jihadism, which endangers people all over the world, not only Israelis. The first Jihadi pogrom against Jews in Palestine/Israel - which included beheadings and rapes - occurred in 1929, long before there were any “illegal” “settlements”. And your article ignores the fact that Israel unilaterally withdrew from Gaza in 2005 in an attempt to arrive at a peaceful resolution. This ultimately resulted in the Islamic, jihadist act of war of Oct 7, 2023. The Palestinian Authority, which pays jihadist terrorists to murder Jews (“pay to slay”) is not much better than Hamas. In brief, your allegation that “By challenging the internationally supported two-state solution and pursuing expansionist policies, Israel risks further destabilizing an already volatile region” is dead wrong. Israel needs to defend itself from the deadly, fanatic ideology of its neighbors. It is their murderous intentions - and not a supposed “expansionist” ideology of Israel - that endangers the peace and stability of the entire world, including but not limited to the Middle East.
Gave up at "Rooted in biblical interpretations and expansionist ideologies, it has fueled regional tensions and sparked debates about Israel’s territorial ambitions." ...... Evidence please, because I know my bible a bit.
Bob-
The Biblical concept of the "Promised Land" is primarily described in the Hebrew Bible (Old Testament) as the land promised by God to the descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
This land is often associated with the territory of ancient Israel, which includes modern-day Israel, the Palestinian territories, and parts of neighboring countries.
Here's a geographic correlation of how the Biblical "Promised Land" might align with modern geopolitical boundaries:
1. Core Biblical Description
The Promised Land is described in several key passages, including:
Genesis 15:18-21: God promises Abraham a land stretching from the "river of Egypt" (likely the Nile or Wadi el-Arish) to the Euphrates River.
Numbers 34:1-12: Provides a detailed boundary description, including the Mediterranean Sea to the west, the Jordan River and Dead Sea to the east, and specific northern and southern limits.
Deuteronomy 11:24: Describes the land as stretching from the wilderness (Negev) to Lebanon and from the Euphrates to the Mediterranean Sea.
2. Modern Geopolitical Correlations
Southern Boundary: The "river of Egypt" (Wadi el-Arish) aligns with the northeastern Sinai Peninsula, near the modern border between Egypt and Israel.
Western Boundary: The Mediterranean Sea remains a clear western boundary, corresponding to Israel's and Gaza's coastline.
Eastern Boundary: The Jordan River and Dead Sea form the eastern boundary, aligning with the modern borders of Jordan and the West Bank.
Northern Boundary: The northern limits described in the Bible (e.g., Mount Hor, Lebo Hamath) roughly correspond to southern Lebanon and parts of southwestern Syria, including the Golan Heights.
3. Key Regions and Modern Equivalents
Negev Desert: The southern part of modern Israel, extending to the Sinai Peninsula.
Judea and Samaria: The West Bank, including areas like Bethlehem, Hebron, and Nablus.
Galilee: Northern Israel, including the Sea of Galilee.
Coastal Plain: The Mediterranean coastline, including cities like Tel Aviv and Gaza.
Transjordan: Parts of modern Jordan, particularly areas east of the Jordan River, such as Gilead and Ammon.
4. Euphrates River Inclusion
The Biblical promise extending to the Euphrates River (Genesis 15:18) would include parts of modern-day Syria, Iraq, and possibly southeastern Turkey.
This is a more expansive interpretation and is not reflected in modern Israeli borders.
5. Modern Political Realities
The modern State of Israel controls much of the core Biblical Promised Land, including the Negev, Galilee, and coastal plains. However, the West Bank and Gaza Strip are contested territories with competing claims by Israelis and Palestinians.
The northern and eastern boundaries described in the Bible extend beyond modern Israel's internationally recognized borders, encompassing areas in Lebanon, Syria, and Jordan.
6. Geopolitical Implications
The concept of the Promised Land remains deeply significant in Jewish, Christian, and Islamic traditions, influencing religious and political narratives in the region.
Modern geopolitical boundaries are shaped by historical events, such as the British Mandate, the 1948 Arab-Israeli War, and the 1967 Six-Day War, rather than Biblical descriptions.
The Biblical "Promised Land" roughly corresponds to modern Israel, the Palestinian territories, and parts of neighboring countries.
However, the expansive interpretation (e.g., including the Euphrates) goes beyond current geopolitical realities.
As you well know, the region remains a focal point of religious, historical, and political significance.
Thanks.
"descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob." ... and how many "Jews" have been DNA tested to be descendants ?; 3% ??.
As for "Here's a geographic correlation of how the Biblical "Promised Land" might align with modern geopolitical boundaries" - well my view is my view and yours is yours.
As for "Deuteronomy 11:24: Describes the land as stretching from the wilderness (Negev) to Lebanon and from the Euphrates to the Mediterranean Sea."... now where have I heard that recently ... oh from the Palestinian and and wanting peace and to stop the genocide protesters -"From the river to the sea".
I am not arguing, I am learning; so thanks again for your comment, see what you think of the below article...
https://www.globalresearch.ca/present-state-israel-vs-israel-bible/5870275
Bob, please understand, I’m not promoting nor in favor of a “Greater Israel”🇮🇱 project.
However, the concept and its backers are very real and quite determined to somehow pull it off.
Most folks are ignorant of the concept altogether irrespective of any descriptive boundaries.
I’m merely trying to wake folks up to the core issue here which is a chronic and severe patrimony rights dispute going back to Ishmael and Isaac…
Sorry if my comment came across as that - I usually speak (write) my thoughts without consideration; let us say. Apologies.
I did read it all by the way - but nobody needs to know.
BUT FOR ME and MY VIEW ONLY; there is a much bigger picture in play now #. Whatever you call it; whether the NWO or 1 Global government - this has been in play for decades, even a couple of centuries... but now we are seeing it. Land grab, wealth transfer, total control over us, theft of natural recourses etc... etc...are happening NOW. For me is is too obvious and whilst my tin hat stays on, I will continue to try and help... unless the obvious knock onthe door of course.
FOR ME - the greater Israel Project is the same as the Holocaust and the so called "anti-semitism" - A COMPLETE LOAD OF BLLX.
PS Why can millions campaign and critisise Israel now ?, when before you could not say a word against them /?
Bob, we basically agree about the big picture here. Obviously, there’s a dark hand organization pulling strings behind the scenes. However, I’m attempting to “chunk” the related issues
You are the boss on your site, so speak you mind ... and keep your views coming please.
I may gob off now and again but hey-ho.